Running Imaginations
For all of you folks with the running imaginations, let us clarify some things for you, there are no deals for Harlow or Joe, there haven’t been any deals for Harlow or Joe, and Harlow nor Joe will be taking any deals, there are way to many loop holes with the prosecutions case, this will show in the up coming months. Then there is the burglary and the conspiracy to commit burglary being dropped, this is a good thing for the defense, ( as some of you dont understand) the burglary and the conspiracy to commit burglary are mitigating factors for the death sentence, this means this was a victory for the defense whether any of you think so or not.
Grants testimony is not as solid as the prosecution wants us to believe it is, see the article on tempcity and you will see what we are talking about, it is common knowledge that Brent and Grant where in legal litigation with Brian over a contract dispute, a contract that was not enforceable! Now think if Grant and Roy had not gone to the police telling there story ( and i mean story) then the police would of had them in custody right now, they had motive with out a doubt, and any jury would find this to be true. Brent on the other hand has caused some much turmoil in other peoples lives over the last few years including Brian, that he would be very hard to believe unless he pulled the feel sorry for Brent syndrome on the stand. It is amazing that when the police had a perfect motive for the crime and they just over looked the people lying to them. Could it be that Brent really is that good of an actor? Seems he must be for the act that he put on for the prosecution, they sure ate it up and ran with it and just totally over looked Brent and Grant. This will not be for long. Brent and Grant were into some things with Brian that had them caught up in an investigation that no one wants anyone to know about. Well that is the reason everyone wants Harlow and Joe just to take a deal , so that all of this won’t come out at the trial, well get real folks, it will all be coming out at trial, there will be no deals for the defense, not Harlows or Joes. The motive was to great for this…..
Now lets get to what the coroner stated when he testified, that the wound started on the right side of the neck and ran to the left side of the neck with the deepest part of the wound on the left side of the neck , almost severing the head from the body, ok so lets take a look at this, standing in front of Brian you would slash in a downward position and the wound would not be as large on the left side of the neck, so that leaves us to believe that the neck wound was done from behind him with the knife running from the right side to the left side of neck, of couse where the deepest part of the wound was found. Now in order to get that good of a cut from the right side to the left side you would have to be left handed To date Harlow and Joe are right handed and have always been right handed. So to sum it up, who’s the lefty?, Robert Wagner? Brent?, Grant?, I am sure someone knows out there! There are alot more things to come out that will have these same issues with the prosecutions case, look for them in the near future.
And for those of you that are so narrow minded that you cant think past Harlow and Joe’s guilt, please remove yourself from this blog, this is not a publlic forum this a private run blog! If you don’t like our opinions then please go elsewhere, believe me there are plenty of other blogs out there that would be more then willing to have your comment posted on there blog. Thank you for your interest but no thank you for the comments. To all of Harlow and Joes well wishers, we thank you all for your support!
August 25th, 2007 at 7:59 am
I hope you are right and that they aren’t taking any deals. And that all the real dirt on the story comes out. Only problem is just because others had real motive and even involvement does not mean that Harlow and Joe are going to walk off free. I certainly hope that the plan is not just take down a few other players with them on the way down. But that they just simply did not do this crime and that the evidence shows just that when all of it is put together.
August 25th, 2007 at 8:37 am
Harlow,
I wish you the best of luck and my prayers are always with you and I will stand by you 100 percent. stay strong and positive. I know I will.
August 25th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Oh, what a tangled web has been weaved…
August 25th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
If there is more to the story why are you guys keeping it a secret? Make it known to us so we can support you.
August 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Luzerne County Court of Common Pleas Judge Ann Lokuta has vowed to expose a Federal Probe of Luzerne County Courts. Judge Lokuta claims that the spoke to the investigators and aided the federal probe.
When you have the possibility that one or more of the Judges of Luzerne County Court of Common Pleas could be indicted or are facing some criminal investigation, everybody facing prosecution in Luzerne County has to be refusing to make deals until the extent of the alleged Federal Probe is Known.
Also, The Current Luzerne County DA is running for Judge in the November Elections and the First Assistant Luzerne County DA is running for DA. So, there could in theory be a whole new Regime in Place on the Court of Common Pleas and in the Luzerne County DA’s Office by next year, by the time Harlow and Joe’s trial is even close to being schedule.
It seems “a given” that the current Luzerne County DA will not be the DA after the November elections are held because he is NOT running for the office.
I wish you would delete all of the comments posted to this blog by people who are clearly not supporters of Harlow and Joe.
August 25th, 2007 at 11:13 pm
Justice said “I think everyone around here needs a reality check.”
You are right. Everyone does need a little reality check.
Reality, regardless of what happened at the preliminary hearing the case was going to be held over for trial. This was not the time for the defense to present its case. The preliminary was for the State to present evidence not the defense. The defense did have the right to question the witnesses. The defense was not allowed to present its evidence or witnesses for the defense.
Reality, review any case similar in charges and see how many were dropped or dismissed in the pre trial stages. Now of course I have not reviewed every case in the USA but I feel certain that a very few if not none were dismissed or dropped in the preliminary stages. As so many believe this was a victory for the State to have the charges held over, there is no victory in something that was going to happen regardless. This hearing was not to determine guilt or innocence. This hearing was a one sided hearing for the State to try to prove they have evidence to support the charges they have made. Of course it sounded bad for the defendants.
Reality, the only way this case would not have been carried over is if the State failed to appear in court or if the State done such a poor job presenting its case that the magistrate could not determine if there was probable cause for the case to continue. The State in any preliminary hearing of course wants to prove they have done the right thing and they have the evidence to support the charges they have made and to support the arrest they have made regardless.
Reality, people are concerned over the evidence presented. WOW. I think we were all “concerned†with the evidence/information when it was presented in the arrest affidavit. This case does sound bad. There is no doubt about that. But there are a few key factors that the State has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury. Have any of those key factors been proved beyond a reasonable doubt?
Reality, the witnesses the State has called at this point and time could not even place Harlow or Joe in the State. No one other that Joe has said anything to the fact of Harlow even being in the State. The motel manager could not even say that it was Joe that checked into the motel even though he claims he seen a photo id and made the person checking in fill in all the information to check in. The neighbors could not place Harlow or Joe at the scene. The neighbors… oh yeah, the neighbors, when they questioned before the preliminary how many different vehicles where they shown for a positive identification of the vehicle at Bryans house. They were shown one vehicle, which happened to be the same one the Harlow rented and there still was not a positive identification of the vehicle or of anyone in the vehicle.
Reality, the State did present its key witnesses at the preliminary. What did the key witnesses prove beyond a reasonable doubt? One key witness has appeared to have lied on the stand. Grant Roy. He testified that he did not review the tape/transcript of the Blacks Beach tape, however in other reports they state he reviewed the information at the State Police headquarters prior to taking the stand. So who do we believe in this case? Do we believe the State? If the State thinks they can prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt then why does the State continue to seek a plea in this case? In case studies with a solid case how many times does the State offer a plea? How many times in a solid case does the State offer multiple plea offers? If this case is so solid why are there multiple failed attempts to get the defendants to take a plea? So do we believe that the delay in the preliminary was done for the benefit of the State in hopes the defendants would hear some evidence and then be scared into a plea? Do we believe Joe is going to take a plea and turn on Harlow because someone posted it somewhere? Who do we believe?
Reality, There is a lot more to the truth of this case than any of us know. We may or may not ever learn the entire truth about what happened in this case. Since this case is in the hands of the court, they will try to decide what the truth is regardless. The court (attorneys) may prevent part of the truth from being presented in this case. So in all reality we may never know everything that truly took place contrary to what some bloggers may post in there “quest for the truth†and I know this to be a “fact†kind of statement they are posting on a regular basis. When in all reality there are very few facts available to anyone. Thus far all we have heard is a one sided series of events from the State. Do we believe that is all there is to this case?
Reality, a lot of bad stuff has happened. A man is dead and other men may face death. Families/friends on both sides are in turmoil. The sad reality is people use the blogs on this case as entertainment when in all reality there is nothing entertaining about anything that has happened. We are talking about life and death. In all reality, we all need to ask ourselves what is our purpose is in following this case. Are people truly here to support a friend? Are people here to benefit something from this case? Are people here because they truly lack personal entertainment in their life? Are people here because they can remain anonymous and have real life entertainment? So I ask why are you here?
I think we all need to ask God to have mercy on our souls and all those involved.
Harlow my friend,
As Always Stay Strong, Stay Focused and the Truth Will Prevail!!
August 25th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
KM indicates that the AoT is correct on this blog and KM is totally WRONG. So this makes me question PC/KM’s blog totally. They are no longer accurate. Thanks AoT for keeping us informed of the truth. AoT is the real truth.
Do you think that Joe will sell Harlow out?
August 26th, 2007 at 2:32 am
Harlow, I received your last letter and the answer is yes. Both names are the same person. The name is used professionally in the Adult Industry. Keep your faith strong and let God’s love and peace come comfort you.
While you walk in this valley of the shadow of death, Fear not the Evil that surrounds you, Because God, your Heavenly Father, will protect you from all Evil. I pray that God will keep you safe and give you peace of mind.
Your friend for eternity and one day more
Alex Blake
August 26th, 2007 at 3:13 am
KM corrected his blog immediately upon learning that he’d been mistaken.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:02 am
they will only take a deal if they are guilty.
August 26th, 2007 at 4:48 am
Hoping for the day that you guys are 100% free and cleared of all charges. With you unconditionally and look forward to kicking it with you back in Va. Beach !! Best of luck and you shall remain in my thoughts & prayers
August 26th, 2007 at 8:00 am
Many of us are talking about the new information regarding Harlow as an escort with a Big Name politically connected client.
Also about the alleged Abilify or steroid use.
Source is suspect but if true or partly true it’s HUGE. Can you ask Harlow if it’s true please?
Thanks AofT!
August 26th, 2007 at 10:09 am
Jake, I think nobody here needs a reality check. Your long rambling post says nothing in it at all that is fresh. You do not need a motel clerk to be able to spot you as the person who rented a room when they have your handwriting all over the forms at check-in. May as well admit you checked in as there are likely cameras that recorded it also. So forget about the clerk’s memory for good. It makes no difference. And no, nothing has been proven beyond a resonable doubt. The hearing was not for that purpose. So why are you jumping the gun and even talking about it now? And there have been plenty of facts already out. You act like there are not really many facts out yet, which is just crazy babble. And yes there will be plnety more facts out before this is over. And as far as entertainment value, I don’t think you can tell people what to be entertained by. Nor can you tell people what they should be here for. Nor should you speak for others concerning asking God for anything. Your long rambing post was you going around in circles with not one fresh original idea. Forget about others, and think through whatever you are trying to say before you post it.
August 26th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
I say we all get together and have a rally for Harlow, maybe outside the courtroom during the trial? also, once the trial is set can we please post on here the details of how to go? i want to go, but need to know if its open to the public, dates, times, etc. Thanks!
August 26th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Word is spreading like wildfire that the FBI office in New York has received some evidence that indicates Sean, Grant and Bryan Phillips were ALL involved as snitches to 2 different branches of the Feds and Interpol. The thing is, Bryan didn’t know S and G were, and vice versa. Now how twisted is that?
As to the source, it turns out that someone often mentioned on these pages has ferreted all this out after his own dealings with the FBI.
Now it turns out he’s talking with big name models and I hear, investing in their start-up with money paid him as a result of his involvement in all this.
A lot of money which is how he relocated.
And no, he’s not being investigated for anything, I am sure of that. He cut his own deal, gotta give him props for that.
I’m still wondering about what Harlow and Joe may have sent him before their arrest though. Lots of conflicting stories going around about that angle.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Word is spreading like wildfire that the FBI office in New York has received some evidence that indicates Sean, Grant and Bryan Phillips were ALL involved as snitches to 2 different branches of the Feds and Interpol. The thing is, Bryan didn’t know S and G were, and vice versa. Now how twisted is that?
As to the source, it turns out that someone often mentioned on these pages has ferreted all this out after his own dealings with the FBI.
Now it turns out he’s talking with big name models and I hear, investing in their start-up with money paid him as a result of his involvement in all this.
A lot of money which is how he relocated.
And no, he’s not being investigated for anything, I am sure of that. He cut his own deal, gotta give him props for that.
I’m still wondering about what Harlow and Joe may have sent him before their arrest though. Lots of conflicting stories going around about that angle.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Jeffery said “So why are you jumping the gun and even talking about it now?â€
Why I’m talking about it now? The answer is simple.
I’m talking about it now because a friend of mine is in jail and I get sick and tired of ignorance. Just so you know I have been “talking about it now†since this started.
I’m talking about it now because of people like you. You hear or read something on line and think it’s got to be the Gods’ honest truth because this person posted it on there blog and since they only post the “truth†then its got to be true. With all the blog’s and post being made out here about this case we need to ask who these people are. Because in reality if they don’t work for the court system, prosecution or defense team (or someone directly involved) then what would they actually know to be the “truth†in this case?
Regardless of the truth it does not stop people from posting anything they want. This is a time for relevance not someone with no knowledge of this case posting anything they want with no recourse. The only things I agree with you are the fact that the preliminary is not a time to determine innocence or guilt, but yet so many already have convicted them because of this hearing and you do not need the clerk to make a positive ID of Joe checking into the motel, but in this case this seems to be a major factor that people seem to consider. I’m just wondering where the evidence is that supports the charges beyond a reasonable doubt.
The reality check post was made because people take the one sided story presented by the
State and automatically assume Harlow and Joe are guilty. The last time I checked, we are all supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. I guess if the reality check would have supported all the evidence and the guilty verdict that you wanted then the post would have been ok. But since I have seemed to post something other than what you believe you want to know why.
As far as entertainment, I received an email from some bloggers and told me I needed to lighten up because after all these blog’s were here for entertainment. I will stand by this, if you are here solely for entertainment purposes, then I do ask God to have mercy on your soul. There is nothing entertaining about anything going on.
In the long run, I will be here to supporting my friend Harlow regardless. What is your goal in being here? Is it because you donated a couple bucks to a defense fund and now you think you are entitled to some sort of a relationship with Harlow? Is it so you may get another date and weekend fling with Ree? By the way Jeffery your post took me back to the 5th grade, “I done this and she liked it.†Thanks I almost forgot how simple life was in those days.
August 26th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
Yeah, a rally! We totally need mylar balloons that say Free Harlow and stuff!
August 27th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
Mylar balloons? Well ok, but only if they match the t-shirts! We’re gay, things gotta look good!
August 28th, 2007 at 2:22 am
You guys need to be very careful with these postings. The state monitors this type of thing to bolster its case, and it may not be wise for the defense to outline possible defense strategies for the trial in open public forums. Try not to let the state see your cards.
August 28th, 2007 at 4:27 am
JC, you mean the strategy regarding the balloons?
August 28th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Jake, the last thing you should do is make light of anyone’s posts on this blog - if the blog host can’t understand the difference between they their there etc, you shouldn’t trash Jeffrey (not Jeffery as you typed) for his bad grammar.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
JC, have you seen any posts from Harlow or Joe’s defense attorneys? What Harlow’s supporters surmise on this blog does not reveal any secrets from the defense team. Its anyones guess.
August 28th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Matt, you are certainly right about that, I should not trash anyone for bad gammar or typing. . I don’t think I said anything about his grammar at all. I know my grammar/typing sucks. I have never claimed to be a professional blogger and I believe to err is human. God knows I make enough of em so I’m not going to “trash†anyone for grammar/typing. The post I did mention was not posted on this blog, it just seems pretty twofaced to me. If you did have a weekend fling with Ree, why would you even post anything about it? Come to think of it, why would a gay guy post he had a fling with Ree? Could someone explain that to me?
Matt by the way, are you here for the support of Harlow? What is your goal for being on this site?
August 28th, 2007 at 7:29 pm
JC, I hope you are right and the State does monitor this site. I want the State to know not everyone supports all of the actions they have taken so far in this case.
Matt and the truth, will you guys attend the rally once it is set up? If so let me know so we can make sure to notify you of the dates and times of the rally. Once we find out if you are going to attend, we will send you the location we are going to meet before the rally starts. Don’t forget to send your shirt size… Ok Thanks.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:37 am
Victor James - you’re just making stuff up to entertain yourself. You belong on the Kruezer blog (if you can even call it that).
August 29th, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Matt_Walsh1
Good catch, that was Kruezer [victor james]
August 30th, 2007 at 1:15 am
I have been away for a week. Can someone tell me if a trial date is sent and if there is any chance of them getting bail.
Good luck to them and may “San Diego” go to hell!
August 31st, 2007 at 2:20 am
Mike as far as I know there has been no dates set. As far bail in this type of case — usually never happens.
October 3rd, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Here’s an interesting new community forum dedicated to everyone involved in this tragic situation.
http://p068.ezboard.com/bdemonluciferatnight